Oct. 3, 2023

Decades of Face: The Forties, The Support Decade

Decades of Face: The Forties, The Support Decade

In this third episode of our mini-series “Decades of Face,” Dr. Bass advises people in their 40’s actively fighting signs of aging and determined to take the best care of their skin. 

With volume loss and wrinkles becoming increasingly visible in this decade of life, Botox and fillers are almost universally part of the beauty plan. This is also prime time to take advantage of energy based treatments for skin changes such as wrinkling, pigment irregularity, age spots, rosacea, and skin laxity. 

For those who have followed a good maintenance and prevention plan, you may be able to avoid surgery in your forties and for some, eyelid surgery may be recommended. 

Having a beauty plan can provide a decade delay before surgical intervention. If you weren’t already, it’s important to take your skin care seriously over the age of 40. 

Hear Dr. Bass’s wise advice for the most common aging signs people see in their forties and how to correct them. 

 

About Dr. Lawrence Bass

Innovator. Industry veteran. In-demand Park Avenue board certified plastic surgeon, Dr. Lawrence Bass is a true master of his craft, not only in the OR but as an industry pioneer in the development and evaluation of new aesthetic technologies. With locations in both Manhattan (on Park Avenue between 62nd and 63rd Streets) and in Great Neck, Long Island, Dr. Bass has earned his reputation as the plastic surgeon for the most discerning patients in NYC and beyond.

To learn more, visit the Bass Plastic Surgery website or follow the team on Instagram @drbassnyc

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Welcome to another episode of
Park Avenue Plastic Surgery Class,

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the podcast where we explore controversies
and breaking issues in plastic

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surgery. I'm your cohost, Doreen Wu.

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I'm excited to be here
with Dr. Lawrence Bass,

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Park Avenue plastic surgeon
educator and technology innovator.

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The title of today's episode is Decades
of Face: Forties, The Support Decade.

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Dr. Bass,

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we are progressing along in
our series Decades of Face.

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We're up to the forties now.

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Certainly a time when many of us are
noticing a lot more aging changes in the

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face and giving more thought
to getting some work done.

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That's right. We're definitely beginning
to ramp up with the need to actively

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manage the face before it gets
away from us. At this stage,

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it becomes important to
have a regular beauty plan.

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And we'll come back to
that. But first, Dr. Bass,

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can you review the concept of
the series Decades of Face?

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Sure.

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There are certain typical
changes at certain stages of

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chronological age and
certain typical fixes that

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work well.

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We're breaking this down by
decade in individual episodes,

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summarizing what happens at
that stage of aging. Now,

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you as an individual may not
show all the changes or quite

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the degree of severity at a given decade,

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but you almost certainly will
follow the progression of changes

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as you age, which shows much
less variation person to person.

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What are some of these characteristic
changes that show up in the forties?

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Well, starting with the skin itself,
skin is considerably less elastic.

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It's starting to look duller
and rougher. It's thinner.

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There's less ground substance material,

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that's the hyaluronic acid in
the skin and some other things,

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and there's less collagen
and the organization of the

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collagen and the elastin is
starting to deteriorate. Also,

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volume loss progresses at first.

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It helped create a more sculpted look
compared to the baby face that many of us

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have in our twenties.

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So in our thirties we
may have our best look,

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a little more angular, but as volume loss

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progresses by the forties,

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it's definitely too much and it starts
to degrade our appearance and produce

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obvious signs of aging.

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And examples of this are
deepening of the nasolabial fold.

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Much more distinctive
volume loss in the cheeks,

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the production of a marionette
line aligned from the
corner of the mouth down to

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the jawline, and sometimes
even early jowling.

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There are also a lot of
changes in the eyelids,

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which are almost universally
present in people in their forties,

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at least to some degree in the
upper eyelid. This means some

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hooding and excess of
skin in the lower eyelid,

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some bulging fat that creates the
appearance of a bag under the eye

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and crepiness in that lower eyelid skin.

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Just little lines and
irregularities that degrade the

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smoothness of that skin in appearance.

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There's also some deepening of the tear
trough or the demarcation line between

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the eyelid skin and the cheek.

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Skin forties can also start
to show some skin laxity

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at in the early stage,

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and some individuals will show
some muscle banding in the

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neck.

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Given that most people start exhibiting
these signs of aging by the time they

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hit their forties. What is the typical
beauty plan for those in this decade?

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It starts with some good
medicated skin products,

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things that that have
retinoid or growth factor,

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some skin medication, not just a
product that protects the skin,

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but a product that helps
improve the biology of the skin.

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Botox and fillers are almost
universally part of the beauty plan

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in the forties.

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And energy based treatments as
needed for whatever skin changes

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have become prominent. Pigment
irregularity, age spots,

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redness acne,

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rosacea may start to show at this age,

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texture changes in the
skin and early wrinkling.

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And there are also energy based
treatments for skin laxity,

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Things like Ultherapy and
others that take the mild skin

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laxity of a 40 year old and
just give that little drop

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of tighten up by pushing
the skin with energy.

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It's not a replacement for
a facelift or a neck lift,

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but when the laxity is very minimal,

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this can be a really good way to
hold it in check. In the forties,

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we see a really big uptick
in Botox and fillers.

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So we said from twenties to
thirties there was a huge jump,

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but it jumps again about three
times as much use in the forties

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as in the thirties and
a big increase in more

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aggressive laser treatments like
recovery based laser resurfacing

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or laser peels for wrinkles.

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And why is the beauty plan
more essential at this stage?

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Well, you want to try to put
together a good basic plan.

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Not going overboard,

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but doing a few things
periodically to maintain the

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skin and chase the most visible features.

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Experience has shown the difference
between having a beauty plan

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and having nothing is often a decade delay

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before surgical interventions are
needed to correct facial aging.

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And even sometimes approaching
two decades of delay before

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surgical intervention, that's a big deal.

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Speaking of surgical interventions,
what are the big items in this decade?

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So again,

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looking at the American Society of
Plastic Surgeons statistics which

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breaks down utilization of
different procedures by age.

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Eyelid surgery is the
top of the list for face

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procedures. And as I said,

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almost everyone has moderate or
worse aging changes at this point.

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So that's a very popular procedure and
there are a lot of reasons for that.

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Again, it's, it's a prominent
feature in aging at this point.

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The surgeries have very
little recovery and give

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a very durable result that may
last a decade or even two decades.

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So that's a great procedure
with a big impact on facial

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appearance.

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And since people spend about 70%
of the time when they're talking

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to you, looking at your eyes
or the area around the eyes,

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anything you do to approve
appearance in that area has a

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big impact on how you're perceived.

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Facelift is starting to be used by some

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individuals who are either
aging poorly or taking a very

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aggressive approach, but
these are often mini lifts,

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which are more age appropriate
at this stage than for

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later in the game.

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And sometimes there's just a portion
of the face that's showing laxity,

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and that's really where a
mini lift is appropriate.

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Because it addresses and focuses
on the area where the trouble

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is located.

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There are also a bunch of
more minimal procedures for

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facial and neck laxity problems.

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And for contouring these areas,

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liposuction of the neck and
procedures that chase neck

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banding by either surgically
repairing the muscle,

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sewing it back together,
called a platysmaplasty,

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or things like the
trampoline platysmaplasty

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which goes by the brand name,

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MyEllevate that divides some of
the muscle bands and suspends

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the submental tissues
to sharpen the cervical

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mental angle,

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the angle between the jawline and the neck

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and sharpen jawline
definition a little bit.

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And then there are things like
thread lifts again for mild laxity

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in the brow, the cheek,

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the jawline or the neck without the

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magnitude of intervention
of an open surgery.

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Does this mean that everyone is going to
be slated for surgery in their forties

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if they want to look their best?

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The good news is not necessarily,

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It depends in part on how you're
aging and in part on how much

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maintenance and prevention you've
built into your beauty plan.

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Predictably,

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people who are doing a lot of little
maintenance treatments stay looking good

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longer without surgery.

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More and more as we get modern
advances, new techniques,

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new treatments,

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we're able to avoid neck and face

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procedures during the forties.

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If you've had a good
plan of care over time,

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this is less true for the eyelids,

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which is more dependent on surgery
once the aging changes start to

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show.

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Before you conclude Dr. Bass,

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can you share some important takeaways
for our listeners about the forties

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decade?

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Don't just play catch when some feature
on your face looks really bad or

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prominent. Make a
prospective plan of care.

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It's okay to do a little bit or a
lot depending on your preferences,

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but you'll be so much better off
if you're at least doing something.

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We all walk around with a mental image
of ourselves based on how we looked in

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our twenties. And the sad
news is that in our forties,

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especially the later half, we
definitely no longer look the same.

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We may think we do,
but trust me, we don't.

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And others see right away that
we're no longer a 20 something,

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that we're a 40 something headed into
middle age and no longer a young adult.

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Finally,

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this is the time to take a few
steps to keep looking good rather

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than descending into a very worn
out aging look that has to be

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corrected with bigger interventions.

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I could not agree more regular maintenance
treatments in our forties can go a

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long way in keeping us looking youthful
and allowing us to stay ahead of the

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curve. Thank you, Dr. Bass for sharing
your insight and expertise with us.

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And thank you to our listeners for joining
us today to hear about how having a

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beauty plan can help you stay
looking younger for longer.

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I hope you found this episode as
fascinating and informative as I did.

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If you think of other exciting
developments or trends
in plastic surgery that

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you would like us to discuss
in an upcoming episode,

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please reach out via email or
Instagram. We'll see you next time.

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This is Doreen Wu thanking you for joining
Dr. Bass and me for this discussion

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of antiaging treatments in your forties.

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Thank you for joining us in this episode
of the Park Avenue Plastic Surgery

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Class podcast with Dr. Lawrence
Bass, Park Avenue plastic surgeon,

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educator and technology innovator.

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The commentary in this
podcast represents opinion.

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This podcast does not
present medical advice,

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but rather general information about
plastic surgery that does not necessarily

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relate to the specific conditions
of any individual patient.

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